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6,183 Responses to Restore America Plan Open Thread

  1. ticktock says:

    I agree with the sentiments of Doran and KU. There are no signs of the “republic” anywhere. The defacto is only getting stronger. Every person in my extended family has gotten a “ticket” in the last 6 months. Yesterday my elderly mom got a 360 dollar ticket cuz her wheels were on the lines of the the handi-cap space where she parks. After that, she was crying and on her way to the doctor and she got stopped for “inappropriate” seat belt use. She’s always had trouble with seatbelts since her mastectomy. She got a ticket two wks ago for the same thing! This is a woman who’s NEVER had a ticket in her life and now all a sudden it’s like she’s being hunted by our “protectors”…HA. And quite frankly, why should she have to sign anything? She didn’t ASK to be in the defacto system. She like everyone else was born into it. She doesn’t know any different. Either freedom is for everyone or it isn’t. How long are ppl going to follow TT into the abyss?

  2. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    ticktock says:
    October 8, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    I agree with the sentiments of Doran and KU. There are no signs of the “republic” anywhere. The defacto is only getting stronger. Every person in my extended family has gotten a “ticket” in the last 6 months. Yesterday my elderly mom got a 360 dollar ticket cuz her wheels were on the lines of the the handi-cap space where she parks. After that, she was crying and on her way to the doctor and she got stopped for “inappropriate” seat belt use. She’s always had trouble with seatbelts since her mastectomy. She got a ticket two wks ago for the same thing! This is a woman who’s NEVER had a ticket in her life and now all a sudden it’s like she’s being hunted by our “protectors”…HA. And quite frankly, why should she have to sign anything? She didn’t ASK to be in the defacto system. She like everyone else was born into it. She doesn’t know any different. Either freedom is for everyone or it isn’t. How long are ppl going to follow TT into the abyss?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ticktock…..I whole heartedly agree with your comments…….the de facto is desperate….they are going after people for every little thing….I know my niece who lives in CA just got a ticket for something petty also…..it cost her $400……I too don’t think we should have to sign anything to join the republic…..our rights come from God not people who are putting themselves in charge….JMO!!

  3. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    FORECLOSUREGATE – by Ellen Brown

    For those of you not familiar with the name, Ellen Brown is the author of the book, “Web of Debt”

    Foreclosuregate and Obama’s “Pocket Veto”

    Thursday 07 October 2010

    by: Ellen Brown, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

    photo
    (Photo: stevendepolo; Edited: Lance Page / t r u t h o u t)

    Amid a snowballing foreclosure fraud crisis, President Obama today blocked legislation that critics say could have made it more difficult for homeowners to challenge foreclosure proceedings against them.

    The bill passed the Senate with unanimous consent and with no scrutiny by the DC media. In a maneuver known as a “pocket veto,” President Obama indirectly vetoed the legislation by declining to sign the bill passed by Congress while legislators are on recess.

    Here’s the link to the rest of the article…..
    http://www.truth-out.org/foreclosuregate63953

  4. freegrma says:

    Janet says:
    October 8, 2010 at 12:46 am
    Rocknee, I have three grown sons. They think I’ve ‘lost it.’ I was born with a pioneer’s heart. They’ve seen me walk that out. I have no doubts they may ‘think’ I’ve lost it, but they are watching from the side. I am also observing that ‘that’ generation seems ‘very’ tuned out. Others are affirming that observation. Yet, I’ve met several from the same generation as my sons from Texas. They knew more about what was going on than I did! Bottom line, I truly believe that our family members will reach a time and place where they be one of the ‘fortunate’ ones to have had ‘some’ input. Eventually, we both know that the ‘…..’ is going to hit the fan. For me, as a Mom of three grown sons, I can say that I have shared verbally and sent many emails. It’s all in God’s timing. I can be the messenger, but unless God plants it and nutures it… gives it birth…it will just be a ‘copy cat’ version that has no life. I’m trusting God that He will ‘abundantly’….’more than I could ever imagine’ honor that He bless my sons and their families…as I choose to stand in the gap to break the cycle ….

    Those that are reading this.. I have no doubt that this is your prayer as well!
    —————————————————————
    Janet, I also have three grown young sons. I believe the age group of 20-30 something are very disconnected from reality. They had little choice since they are the most indoctrinated among us. I think that their awakening will need to be a matter of God’s timing. One son has been onboard from the beginning and the other two have listened enough that they are more prepped than most of their contemporaries (whether they think I have lost it or not) and I believe they will have something of an advantage when SHTF time comes

  5. Floridafree says:

    IMO the De-facto is alive maybe not well but they will find a way to revive the un endless corrupt machine. I’m getting ready to send in my hard earned money to that criminal organization known as the IRS everything that has to go on hold I.E. Mortgage ,Car payment will go on hold so I can send the money that is being unlawfully collected by the IRS just a collection agency for the IMF.

    I just wish I hadn’t listened to TT I actually believed him when he said the IRS would go away by May they would only be a book keeping agency or something to that effect.

    I now come here just for the enjoyment factor of reading everyones take on what is NOT happening. Had people like Beck manned up and stopped hiding the truth about the IMPOSTOR in the White House just maybe things would be looking up.

    The only saving grace at this point will be if the aliens from up above come down and save this earth cause there sure isn’t anyone on this planet that can reel in these bunch of thugs in the 67 sq mile area known as the district of Criminals.

    Prove to me I’m wrong prove to me there is a LEGITIMATE movement that can make a difference. Don’t try to sell me that all these county juries are going to change a thing I’m not buying it we have less than 2 months before the corrupt elections will take place after that people will go back into hiding as they all will think the Republicans are going to save the day but we know it will be much of the same maybe just a little bit better and yes I am a lifelong Republican.

  6. Janet says:

    freegrma says:
    October 8, 2010 at 5:07 pm
    ‘……………..One son has been onboard from the beginning and the other two have listened enough that they are more prepped than most of their contemporaries (whether they think I have lost it or not) and I believe they will have something of an advantage when SHTF time comes’

    _________________________________

    I agree. I send emails / information and talk with them. Even if they may not agree, they will have heard some of the information when SHTF. Therefore, I continue to share information. God knows!

  7. Habit4ming says:

    Jacqlyn Smith says:
    October 8, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    FORECLOSUREGATE – by Ellen Brown

    For those of you not familiar with the name, Ellen Brown is the author of the book, “Web of Debt”

    Foreclosuregate and Obama’s “Pocket Veto”

    Thursday 07 October 2010

    by: Ellen Brown, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

    photo
    (Photo: stevendepolo; Edited: Lance Page / t r u t h o u t)

    Amid a snowballing foreclosure fraud crisis, President Obama today blocked legislation that critics say could have made it more difficult for homeowners to challenge foreclosure proceedings against them.

    The bill passed the Senate with unanimous consent and with no scrutiny by the DC media. In a maneuver known as a “pocket veto,” President Obama indirectly vetoed the legislation by declining to sign the bill passed by Congress while legislators are on recess.

    Here’s the link to the rest of the article…..
    http://www.truth-out.org/foreclosuregate63953
    ——————————————————
    I’m trying to get my mind off of something, yet just am not up to reading these “more-than-likely” important articles. Anyway, I don’t know if this is the same information or different, but it’s the same topic:

    The word is out that Pres. Obama’s pocket veto of the Digital Robo-Signing Act was actually a trick. Sen. Harry Reid didn’t actually adjourn the U.S. Senate. The Senate has been kept in session by a little understood ruse and the bill will become law tonight at midnight without the President’s signature.

    The big banks will file suit after the election to have this bill declared to be law. Article I, Section 7 of the U.S. Constitution seems to support this view. Some drunken bankers were already bragging about this an some major news outlets, including Fox News have reported on this.
    Link to article is linked at DP:
    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/146286

  8. FORECLOSURE FUROR.

    So now foreclosures are mostly Frozen what do the naysayers have to say now about TT and all other sovereigns that have been working, for a long time, to reveal this FRAUD?

    It was alot of different people and groups with everyone doing their part. We still have a long, hard, dangerous, struggle ahead of us but this is a sign of a start.

    God’s Blessings.

  9. WAIT JUST A MINUTE HERE.

    How can the CONgress have passed a bill WHEN THEY ARE ON RECESS???
    This is really BAZAAR…INSANTASY.
    It was reported that they left and the las bill they did was teh “supplemental budget” and they were gone to recess to CAMPAIGN for their Lives. So how can they be still passing bills???

    Something is wrong here.

  10. Rocknee says:

    FORECLOSURE FUROR.

    So now foreclosures are mostly Frozen what do the naysayers have to say now about TT and all other sovereigns that have been working, for a long time, to reveal this FRAUD?

    It was alot of different people and groups with everyone doing their part. We still have a long, hard, dangerous, struggle ahead of us but this is a sign of a start.

    God’s Blessings.

    //////////////

    KU, Doran and JS. Proof!!

  11. GBAmerica,
    Thanks
    Then there was this:

    It’s Official: Southern Poverty Law Center Is Now Part of DHS
    As the below document makes clear, Southern Poverty Law Center is Now Officially Part of DHS. The CEO of SPLC now sits on the DHS “Working Group on Countering Violent Extremism” along with the leaders of other So-called Non Government Organizations (but can we really call them such now that they are part of the government?) And select “law enforcement” officers such as the Clark County Nevada Sheriff, Doug Gillespie. What does the working group do? Make recommendations on training and how to use all of the local resources – police, social services, media, NGO’s, you name it – to fight “extremism. So, now no need to file a FOIA request to discover that SPLC is writing the reports naming constitutionalists as possible terrorists. Now it is in your face and the mask is off.

    READ ON:
    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/10/08/its-official-southern-poverty-law-center-is-now-part-of-dhs/

  12. Floridafree says:

    FORECLOSURE FUROR.

    So now foreclosures are mostly Frozen what do the naysayers have to say now about TT and all other sovereigns that have been working, for a long time, to reveal this FRAUD?

    It was alot of different people and groups with everyone doing their part. We still have a long, hard, dangerous, struggle ahead of us but this is a sign of a start.

    ===========================================================

    How do you know this was TT and the sovereigns that caused all of this?

  13. RobbRyder says:

    FORECLOSURE FUROR.

    So now foreclosures are mostly Frozen what do the naysayers have to say now about TT and all other sovereigns that have been working, for a long time, to reveal this FRAUD?
    It was alot of different people and groups with everyone doing their part. We still have a long, hard, dangerous, struggle ahead of us but this is a sign of a start.
    God’s Blessings……………..

    Well put, expecially about all the other efforts most might not be aware of going on now… One group that really needs to be admired is the CIC Group, Creditors in Commerce.. I highy recommend anyone visit their website CreditorsinCommerce dot com.. Much wisdom is housed there..

    An example is a audio from their Boston July 2010 workshop… What an eyeopener … From defining who “I” is, into one heck of an explanation of the private/public trust we are all part of.. Follow the link then look for Boston, and go to session 3 http://www.creditorsincommerce.com/audio-workshops.php

    The problem is now defined, and in their other recording they tell you how to get your remedy, not how to get over, but how to assert your rights, and win … everytime..
    And it’s quite simple..

    I, am the paramount security interst holder of all property and colllateral, both registered, and unregestered of both my “Real” name and my ALL CAPS name..

    We are neither of them, and we control all… we just have to claim it… I’m telling ya, these guys have got it nailed… There doing it, and they will tell you how..

    What a refreshing change from hearing all negative and maybe happening, with verifiable solution… you just have to do it…

    We are all our own country, given a vessel to see Gods creation, and participate in commerce, and it’s US(me, and you) who have not done our part, and played the Creditor.. We have many duties as a country, like Banker, Post Master General, Ambasador.. ect.. You can write Money orders, offset dept, ect.. , cancel stamps, have a seal ect.. very powerful stuff.. on the Private side..

    These guys will show you how to write off all your debts, teach you to never fear Judges, Police, ect.. with real life stories, calls with “students” telling their experiences.. If your ready for remedy, here is your chance..

    Think about it.. when they say the PUBLIC DEBT is the unbelivable number… that money is owed to the Creditors… the problem is… we are the Creditors and don’t act like it…

    “I” can never be a Debtor… “I” is what the creator sent here.

  14. This is PROOF that what TT and many others were saying about ForeclosureFraud was correct.

    This came about because of the fight against foreclosures that sovereigns have been putting in for years. There are foreclosure victims meeting all over this country in small groups that helpo each other and learn and teach from themsleves and other sovereign teachers.

    That is what brought this about. They kept filing and refining their paperwork until something worked and then some sovereign attorneys also joined in. When most rolled over sovereigns starting attacking…and now we have some fruit.

  15. chucky says:

    Rocknee says:
    October 8, 2010 at 9:03 pm
    FORECLOSURE FUROR.

    So now foreclosures are mostly Frozen what do the naysayers have to say now about TT and all other sovereigns that have been working, for a long time, to reveal this FRAUD?

    It was alot of different people and groups with everyone doing their part. We still have a long, hard, dangerous, struggle ahead of us but this is a sign of a start.

    God’s Blessings.

    //////////////

    KU, Doran and JS. Proof!!

    …………………..

    How you know this is TT work. Any links?

  16. KU says:

    AL said… (this is from the RAP NESARA site in reference to the Galactic Federation)

    The reason I think this is all bogus, sorry, is that there is now a very active ongoing program of genocide in our country and across the globe:
    Toxic vaccines
    GMO food
    Codex Alimentarius and ban on health supplements
    Aspartame (now in all gum – and the ADA says on each pkg that chewing gum ‘strengthens’ your teeth!!)
    Mercury amalgam fillings
    Fluoridated water
    Atmospheric Geoengineering
    MSG
    High Fructose Corn Syrup
    Dangerous medications
    Cancer (non) treatment
    Light bulbs with mercury
    Rationed government health care
    Corexit poisoning of the Gulf states population

    And nothing is being done to stop any of it, while the population’s health is more compromised each day.

    As I’ve said before . . . when the chemtrails and wars stop, then we’ll know things might be changing.

    I just looked up at the sky. It’s not today.

    ———————————————
    ———————————————

    Thanks Al,
    This is just the tip of the ice burg folks. All of the eugenics that are being perpetrated on the people of the world, very cleverly, by TPTB are being hidden and promoted and put in place by factions of the de facto government that are TRUSTED and RELIED ON by the people. It’s all part of the sinister plan that is already in place to take control after the engineered failure of this great nation.

    When the people are sick, hungry, penniless, without hope, and everything that is necessary to do to stop this madness is against the law………….the NEW SYSTEM will be put in place and the people will accept it to save whatever is left of their lives and the lives of their loved ones. IMHO this is what has been planned for a very long time and is now coming to fruition. Does the NWO come to mind?

    A small % of the population has awakened and are desperately seeking a remedy through the efforts of groups backed by constitutional law. Unfortunately, these laws are disregarded by the dark cabal. Most of the awakened people are just that, people who are not highly trained to engage such evil, so they follow, hopefully, a few who seem to have the magical ability make things right. Lets look at some of them and see what has been accomplished.

    1. Team Law…..Has county juries in place, state Grand Juries in place, elected Governors, Senators, Representatives, and a President pro tempore in place. They have been doing this for about 20 YEARS.
    Accomplishment- No national restoration, and certainly haven’t slowed TPTB.

    2. The County Grand Jury…Has anyone even heard of them. They started in 2009.
    Accomplishment- I know of nothing accept that they do exist.

    3. We The People Foundation…Started in 2004. They have highly trained intelligent followers. They have staged a Continental Congress and written an impressive document entitled The Articles of Freedom. Their chairman is Bob Schulz who has many times been on MSM.
    Accomplishment- No national restoration. No changes to de facto government policy at all.
    4. Restore America Plan- After many problems appears to be defunct.
    Accomplishment- TT in the beginning stated that the REPUBLIC HAS BEEN RESTORED……not true. No changes to de facto procedures have been noticed.
    5. Restored America- A TT offshoot to RAP. The President TT has again stated that the REPUBLIC HAS BEEN RESTORED… Not true, there is no evidence that this is true, to my knowledge, and no changes to any de facto government policies or procedures have been noticed. TT stated the funding is in place…Not true, no evidence has been shown to verify this. TT stated that the military, whoever that is, is backing the RA movement….Not true, no evidence or statements by anyone in the military has been forthcoming to my knowledge.

    I believe that these main groups have the highest intentions, and God driven ideas to bring this nation back to the moral principles that free people demand. Up to this time, however, they have not been able to penetrate the shield of power wielded by the dark cabal. A big part of their failing has been the inability to bring together the energies of each to present a more formidable force. They are actually at odds with each other.

    Personally, I have found it hard to become part of any one restore group until they can show, through the fruits of their labor, that they are honorable and knowledgeable enough to get the job done. There must be actual changes occurring within the power structure and information given as to how and why it has occurred. I realize that there is a covert element to this operation. But when all one hears is talk the talk and nothing is changing as the ship goes down, most people will abandon it.

    I have heard time and again that we the people, as individuals must be the ones to make the changes. But at an estimated .5% of the population involved in the restoration process and the rest disinterested parties…….well….we’ll see. I am an American warrior and when TSHTF I will do what is necessary, whether it is voting the scum out, organizational structuring, or locked and cocked.

  17. Rocknee says:

    KU

    Besides cut and paste, this is all you have done or will do:

    I am an American warrior and when TSHTF I will do what is necessary, whether it is voting the scum out, organizational structuring, or locked and cocked.

    Recommendation for you. Bring all the groups together.

  18. Margie says:

    Thanks for info. and fighting for OUR Constitution. Stay safe, God Bless!!! :)

  19. Habit4ming says:

    Ron Paul on Alex Jones –Fear is the Tool of the Thugs in Government
    (2 videos–about 25 min. total length between the two)

    He also speaks about the eventual dollar collapse, other economic issues…
    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/146273

  20. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco says:
    October 8, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    WAIT JUST A MINUTE HERE.

    How can the CONgress have passed a bill WHEN THEY ARE ON RECESS???
    This is really BAZAAR…INSANTASY.
    It was reported that they left and the las bill they did was teh “supplemental budget” and they were gone to recess to CAMPAIGN for their Lives. So how can they be still passing bills???

    Something is wrong here.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Peter…..the same way they have done everything without the majority of people approving of it!!! It’s called “contempt of Constitution”…they do it all the time!!!

  21. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Rocknee says:
    October 8, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    KU

    Besides cut and paste, this is all you have done or will do:

    I am an American warrior and when TSHTF I will do what is necessary, whether it is voting the scum out, organizational structuring, or locked and cocked.

    Recommendation for you. Bring all the groups together.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    If TT can’t do it then how do you expect KU to do it…..you all don’t have a clue…it will take millions standing up against the cabal…..how do you think TT will bring all the groups together when they are asking you to sign all kinds of documents and become a part of their club….if anyone has a chance it will be the Tea Parties or the de jure government people….that is who TT should get behind but he won’t because his ego won’t allow it!!!

  22. Rocknee says:

    Sorry Jackie for TT is further alone in this process than anyone. It is not a club but a restored republic and you need to quit referring to it as that. The de jure govt and TP will be the ones to follow, not TT.

    Dont see a problem with the docs. Gotta separate the soverigns from defactos somehow. Kinda like separating you from me. Nevada plates from Alaska plates. Gotta have docs to get that soverign ID debit card!

  23. Gwaithfoed says:

    HERE WE GO…

    FDIC May Seek $1 Billion From Failed-Bank Executives

    “The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. has authorized lawsuits against more than 50 officers and directors of failed banks as the agency aims to recoup more than $1 billion in losses stemming from the credit crisis. ”

    But that story released tonight is NOTHING compared to this…..

    THE “ICE QUEEN” OF SILVER MANIPULATION IS ALL OVER THE WALL STREET JOURNAL TONIGHT!

    J.P. Morgan Commodities Chief Takes the Heat

    Yes, the creator and promoter of Credit Default Swaps turned Queen of Commodity Manipulation is now being dragged in front of the public LIKE A BIG GIANT TARGET TO BLAME for the Silver Manipulation Scandal!!!

    “She is definitely not a shrinking violet,” said Bart Chilton of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, who had several meetings with her on potential regulatory changes.”

    Judging from the release of this article on Friday night…

    I EXPECT THE CFTC TO ANNOUNCE THE OFFICIAL CHARGES OF SILVER MANIPULATION AGAINST JP MORGAN NEXT WEEK!

    It’s getting pretty exciting out there!

    Bix

    PS – My $6,000/oz silver call may be a little LOW by the end of the month!

  24. Doran says:

    I’m sorry but those of you who want to give TT credit for the “Foreclosure Furer” are pulling at straws. There are THOUSANDS of people involved in Lawsuits or fighting the banks.

    Guys like George Tran, who is documenting his adventure: http://www.freeandclearin90.com

    You want to pawn off this recent foreclosure media as a piece of proof that the Republic is restored?
    (rolling my eyes)

    Again, until the “Restored Republic” is functioning like a restored republic on a daily basis, it is in no way, shape or form, a restored republic.

    Please, lets keep our conversations and claims realistic, so that we present ourselves as believable.

    Thanks

  25. KU says:

    Rocknee says:

    It is not a club but a restored republic and you need to quit referring to it as that.
    ———————————

    Oops, there I go, actually it’s copy & pasting again. The interesting part of your remark is that you keep referring to the restored republic. Being that I don’t seem to understand exactly what a restored republic should be, I thought maybe you could give me your rendition of that.

    Would it have to do with government agencies like the IRS being changed or eliminated? But that hasn’t happened as promised, and people who didn’t pay the scum now have a problem. But they believed TT so, can’t blame them I guess.

    Or that the de facto governments bonds were arrested? But then, they just spent a trillion dollars on their projects so that couldn’t be it.

    Would it be that the foreclosures had been stopped by the banks? Maybe TT had something to do with that. But the foreclosure procedures were slowed down just to give the PTB the opportunity to find a way around it. TT promised to stop foreclosures and eliminate mortgages some time back. But that wouldn’t be enough to say the republic was restored would it?

    The military being behind the RA group, that would kind of show that the republic might be restored. But the military is still fighting in foreign lands. If the republic was restored TT wouldn’t allow that would he?

    I’m having a real problem finding the things that have changed so much that I would say to myself……….Yep, the republic has been restored!!

    Since I am having this problem would you show me what you mean when you say that the REPUBLIC HAS BEEN RESTORED? Just a couple of things would be alright, but they should be significant enough that you can say a restoration has taken place I think. I sincerely would like to know. This applies to any signed in member of the RA group.
    thanks……..

  26. Habit4ming says:

    Don’t Forget Him…
    Submitted by nofedirs on Fri, 10/08/2010 – 20:58

    SPC Michael New….

    15 years ago on Sunday, October 10…
    A real American Patriot stood his ground…

    On October 10, 1995, the 1/15 Battalion of the 3rd infantry Division of the U.S. Army came to attention at 0900 in Schweinfurt, Germany. All but one of the 550 soldiers were wearing a sky-blue baseball-style cap with a United Nations insignia on the front. One was wearing the olive-drab flat cap that is authorized to be worn with the Battle Dress Uniform. With this simple act of disobeying a direct order, Spc. 4 Michael New set the stage for a legal battle that has profound implications for the future of American soldiers into service of the United Nations without the constitutional permission of Congress.
    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/146301#comment-1553307

  27. Rocknee says:

    KU,

    As you can tell, I am not a very smart person. As I indicated last night, it will be up to the people to stop foreclosure and IRS withholdings. TT provided the avenue.

    The foreclosures, IRS issues and military has nothing to do with the restoration of the republic. Restore means to go back to the original per Webster. That means the republic is restored back to the original Constitution. Up to the people to make everthing else happen.

    Hope you understand that for the second time.

  28. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Rocknee says:
    October 9, 2010 at 2:36 am

    KU,

    As you can tell, I am not a very smart person. As I indicated last night, it will be up to the people to stop foreclosure and IRS withholdings. TT provided the avenue.

    The foreclosures, IRS issues and military has nothing to do with the restoration of the republic. Restore means to go back to the original per Webster. That means the republic is restored back to the original Constitution. Up to the people to make everthing else happen.

    Hope you understand that for the second time.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Rocknee….the de jure government folks and the Tea Party people have a lot more people backing them and both are grassroots movements……you can keep your head in the clouds and believe TT has provided you the avenue but so far as KU has indicated nothing has changed and if as you say it’s up to the people to make everything else happen then you better get on board with the majority because TT hasn’t shown anyone that he has funding or enforcement……as I understand it the military is not behind him and I know for a fact that the folks here in Las Vegas who were in RA have pretty much gone different ways now!

  29. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Rocknee says:
    October 9, 2010 at 12:11 am

    Sorry Jackie for TT is further alone in this process than anyone. It is not a club but a restored republic and you need to quit referring to it as that. The de jure govt and TP will be the ones to follow, not TT.

    Dont see a problem with the docs. Gotta separate the soverigns from defactos somehow. Kinda like separating you from me. Nevada plates from Alaska plates. Gotta have docs to get that soverign ID debit card!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Rocknee….You have NO proof TT has done anything….just because he gets on the airwaves and says it is so doesn’t make it so…….You can keep telling yourself that people are going to buy the TT stuff but you are wrong…..God gives me my rights….not TT or some document you all want people to sign……if the republic is restored then everyone should be free and under common law……no separating needed we are all Americans and God’s children!

  30. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    I don’t know who is more believable…..Casper or Tim Turner…..maybe they are actually working together…..who knows…….

    CASPER UPDATE: OCTOBER 8, 2010

    Delays yesterday and today were caused by John Roberts and the English and Italian Judges on the World Court.

    The problems have supposedly been overcome -> Heads Up Again.

    casper 10-8-10

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1286588432

  31. Ladybug says:

    After reading headlines today on Drudge, it struck me that many current events are “upside down”… check it out and see what you think.

    ‘Happiness Preacher’ Commits Suicide…
    Alcohol Enforcement Chief Arrested For DUI…
    Year After Obama Won Nobel, World Looks for Signs of Peace…
    New Obama security adviser clashed with military…
    BANK OF AMERICA Halts All Foreclosures, Sales…
    Man bites police dog…
    72,000 stimulus payments went to dead people…
    Global hurricane activity at 33-year lows; Pacific activity at historical low…

  32. Lesley-TX says:

    Jacqlyn Smith says:
    October 9, 2010 at 3:27 am
    I don’t know who is more believable…..Casper or Tim Turner…..maybe they are actually working together…..who knows…….

    +++++++++++++++

    Personally, I don’t believe any of it anymore!

  33. TO:

    KU says:
    October 8, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    [...]

    4. Restore America Plan- After many problems appears to be defunct.
    Accomplishment- TT in the beginning stated that the REPUBLIC HAS BEEN RESTORED……not true. No changes to de facto procedures have been noticed.
    5. Restored America- A TT offshoot to RAP. The President TT has again stated that the REPUBLIC HAS BEEN RESTORED… Not true, there is no evidence that this is true, to my knowledge, and no changes to any de facto government policies or procedures have been noticed. TT stated the funding is in place…Not true, no evidence has been shown to verify this. TT stated that the military, whoever that is, is backing the RA movement….Not true, no evidence or statements by anyone in the military has been forthcoming to my knowledge.
    [...]

    Personally, I have found it hard to become part of any one restore group until they can show, through the fruits of their labor, that they are honorable and knowledgeable enough to get the job done. There must be actual changes occurring within the power structure and information given as to how and why it has occurred. I realize that there is a covert element to this operation. But when all one hears is talk the talk and nothing is changing as the ship goes down, most people will abandon it.
    [...]

    ===================

    You say NOT TRUE but where is your PROOF?

    There are many like you that wait for others to do the hard work in the trenches and when asked to pitch in they use some lame excuse BUT as soon as it seems that things are about to take off or showing progress they show up ready to claim the honor.
    Example Alan Grayson’s recent video as well as Barney Fwank’s letter to Fannie Mae.

    The Republic is Restored now what is need is inhabitants to pitch in and asserts their God Given Rights. We don’t need approval from an UNLAWFUL & UnConstitutional fictional de facto CORPORATE entity to recognize us.

    We ARE WHO WE SAY WE ARE. Our Rights and Freedoms come from God and we re-assert them here and now.
    Now go forward and populate!!

    DEMOCRACY = SLAVERY if you want to be truly free educate thee.

    http://www.RepublicoftheunitedStates.org

  34. Habit4ming says:

    From the Daily Paul site:

    Damon Vrabel: This is how the private Federal Reserve banking cartel is robbing you
    Submitted by ctiger2 on Sat, 10/09/2010 – 02:04
    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/146315

  35. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Judge grants request to file Amicus Curiae Brief claiming health care bill null and void due to Obama’s ineligibility
    Print This Post
    “THIS MOTION IS GRANTED”

    by Sharon Rondeau

    Commonwealth of Virginia’s Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli filed the first lawsuit against government-mandated health care

    (Oct. 8, 2010) — Last March The Post & Email reported on an “Admission of Ineligibility” declared by a Florida man after he charged Barack Hussein Obama with “negligence” for failing to answer his request that Obama prove he is a natural born Citizen and therefore qualified to hold the office of President of the United State.

    Read the rest of the story here…..

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/10/08/judge-grants-request-to-file-amicus-curiae-brief-nullifying-health-care-bill-on-grounds-of-obamas-ineligibility/

  36. Gwaithfoed says:

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/vrabel1.1.1.html
    Thomas Jefferson explained it over 200 years ago. The problem is not Muslims, Jews, unions, the left, or the right. That’s all a distraction. The problem is the aristocracy controlling and restructuring the masses through banks, corporations, and other financial institutions. Jefferson said they’re more dangerous than standing armies. To bring his accurate metaphor up to date, big armies like JPM Chase, Goldman Sachs, and the IMF fight the main battle, hedge funds like Soros stand ready to run bombing raids, and the Banks of China and Japan control the WMDs. The US is getting a taste of the neoliberalism it has forced on other countries for decades, and if it steps out of line, a financial version of payback for Hiroshima may be on the horizon

  37. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    TREASON IS…
    Saturday, 9 October 2010
    …taking away the constitutionally commanded Grand Jury and replacing the Grand Jury with a Court of the Judiciary.
    Treason is the forcible resistance to the Constitution with intent (then success) to install a rival unconstitutional government is .
    Treason is Tennessee government officials taking over the constitutionally constructed Tennessee County Grand Juries and installing instead a rival, unconstitutional government controlled Court of the Judiciary.

    http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/

  38. George Orwell, 1984:

    “You are a slow learner, Winston,” said O’Brien gently.
    “How can I help it?” he blubbered. “How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four.”
    “Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three.
    Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”

  39. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Some good news for Lakin I hope……

    BORN IN THE USA?
    Army officer’s supporters warn of ‘greatest fraud ever’
    Group joins doctor’s campaign to challenge Obama’s eligibility

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2010 WorldNetDaily

    Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin

    An organization that says it linked an Army doctor challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility with a new legal defense team contends the unveiling of the president’s birth certificate would prove one of two things: he was a dual citizen or there has been “the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people.”

    Leaders of the United States Patriots Union have told WND the officer’s arguments need to go beyond the quest for the president’s original birth certificate because that would reveal only some of the evidence needed.

    Story continued at…….

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=211881

  40. KU says:

    Habit4ming,
    Thank you, this video is a shoehorn into a wealth of information that will strengthen my weak side. This is the type of information we need on this blog.

    Let me just say that I started listening to Sam K some time ago and had an epiphany about sovereign freedom that I knew nothing about. SK had no support at all, but my interest was up. Then TT stepped on the scene with believable rhetoric and promises about the restoration process. I signed up for duty…..no response, signed again….no response, must be because it’s new. I found out who was the RAP rep in Georgia and emailed him offer support. By the time anything could occur, RAP fell apart. So I started to research other restore groups and located 3, 4 including the morphed RA group, that seemed legitimate. They are all working the same game. All installing Grand Juries, governmental officers, electing a president pro tempore. One had a Continental Congress, all writing impressive documents. How many presidents and grand juries and representatives are required to get this thing done?

    Lets see, who do I throw my weight behind? From there it becomes a research, listen, wait and see affair. Some have chosen to follow RA for their own reasons. If I had chosen one of the other groups, I would think they are fools because there is no liaison or interaction between these groups. They are all arrogantly right. Divide and conquer, works every time.

    I listened to the wed talkshoe and the totally unprepared RA representative. There were maybe 10 questions, 4 of which were significant. (I will Paraphrase)
    Question 1- Can you tell me about the funding?
    Answer- I don’t have that information

    Question 2- Why don’t the restore groups combine their resources?
    Answer–I don’t have that information, maybe sometime in the future that will happen, we’re trying to get everyone to sign up.

    Question 3- Is the military on board to support the RA group?
    Answer- I don’t have that information, we are working on getting the militia started so we will have some backup power. (in other words NO)
    The representative then went on to say how the individual problems taken to the Grand Juries would all be handled. That would include foreclosures, IRS problems, all non injured party incarcerations, that’s just a start.

    Question 4- Will the de facto government pay attention to what the de jure government has to say about things?
    Answer– We don’t know if they will, but after the de facto government fails , we will be able to step in with the de jure system we have set up.

    If you think that the dark cabal is just going to fold up their tents and leave, let me enlighten you. They have a system in place to implement, right now, already figured, after they take the present system down. It will give them the ability to install martial law executive power to utilize the full force of the military to put this system in place. Any organization that attempts to take control will be listed as a threat and dismantled. They will raid your spaces, remove all documentation, list all individuals as threats and quash this threat any way they chose. They have ,at this time, files on everyone who is participating, they read the blogs, know your IP addresses,read your emails, listen to your phone conversations, and observe in real time. I know, I have been in the belly of the beast, this is how they think this is how they operate. If you think otherwise you better wake up.

    This is what we face as sovereign free loving people. This is what must be overcome to get anything restored. It is not just going to happen because we make an attempt to install constitutional law. They don’t care about that, it matters not to them. So to me , finding a way through their plan is the task at hand and personally I haven’t seen anyone address this problem. Everyone is just high fiving each other and laughing the face of the beast. What do you think he is going to do, tuck his scales and run? This is going to take some doing, and it needs a concentrated effort.

    I hate to be so cynical, but what I have seen of how the restore groups are proceeding, does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling. This is not to say that I don’t remain hopeful, because I have faith in the human spirit. If there is a way, it will be found, but lets be realistic fellow patriots. Also, it’s not that I don’t participate because I haven’t signed on. I participate in my own way and I need not justify it to anyone.

  41. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Some great information here if you haven’t heard of Damon Vrabel please go to the below link…..

    http://www.csper.org/renaissance-20.html

  42. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    KU says…..

    I hate to be so cynical, but what I have seen of how the restore groups are proceeding, does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling. This is not to say that I don’t remain hopeful, because I have faith in the human spirit. If there is a way, it will be found, but lets be realistic fellow patriots. Also, it’s not that I don’t participate because I haven’t signed on. I participate in my own way and I need not justify it to anyone.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    KU…I listened yesterday to that Oregon ambassadors talkshoe too and I agree with your assessment…..more of the same old rhetoric and none of the important questions were addressed……until millions of us stand together then I don’t see much happening…..please read the info on Damon Vrabel….very interesting and here’s a youtube of him in an interview……there are two parts so once you listen to the WAKE up part then look for the pt.2…..

  43. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    http://www.csper.org/lesson-61-sovereign-money.html

    Brightening the Future

    Discusses the powerful monetary vortex that governs our lives day to day; explains the truth about inflation, leverage, and derivatives; and introduces the solution to the vortex.

  44. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    http://www.csper.org/lesson-62.html

    Part 2 – Brightening the Future

    Discusses how the left vs. right political framework is not the place to find solutions to the vortex because it only fuels the vortex further. Explains what fascism really is.

  45. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    http://www.csper.org/lesson-63.html

    Part 3 – Brightening the Future

    Discusses how to fix the problem and help launch the next Enlightenment to ensure humanity moves into Renaissance 2.0 vs. the next Dark Ages.

  46. Gwaithfoed says:

    Brightening the Future

  47. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Gwaithfoed…..I have watched all of Damon’s videos……they are awesome!

    You can find his lessons at this link….

    http://www.csper.org/renaissance-20.html

  48. Floridafree says:

    Lesley-TX says:
    October 9, 2010 at 11:15 am

    Jacqlyn Smith says:
    October 9, 2010 at 3:27 am
    I don’t know who is more believable…..Casper or Tim Turner…..maybe they are actually working together…..who knows…….

    +++++++++++++++

    Personally, I don’t believe any of it anymore!

    ============================================================
    Agree with you Lesley think it is time to wake up to realization the only way we will change anything (little to nothing) will be in the voting booth.

  49. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    http://www.csper.org/lesson-61-sovereign-money.html

    Sovereign Money

    This lesson by Damon V is very important….it helps to understand what is going on in our financial system and who is running the show…..JP Morgan…..

  50. Ladybug says:

    I don’t know if anyone noticed, but Greg has added a new thread. https://gwgjlg.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/the-republic-of-the-united-states-of-america/ It is for discussions on RA.

  51. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    I just received this email from a friend……

    Dear Reader and fellow New Yorkers,
    For the very same reason Carl Paladino exposes so well the record of Andrew Cuomo’s past experience, the people of New York deserve the fair and balanced experience of Carl E. Person, who as Attorney General by plurality win in November is able and equipped to advance Carl Paladino’s platform on the run and be Carl’s backstop trial lawyer and the Carls together are more than able to takeout the Albany, New York trash dumped there by Washington D.C. and whose statist Tweedledum and Tweedledee sinecures Donovan and Schneiderman are from the same status quo insufficient for the job.
    Carl’s Platform will work because AG Carl Person is gonna caucus with Paladino to make it work! It fails with Donovan or Schneiderman, and New Yorkers will suffer further setbacks.
    Carl will be Attorney General of the people in the 932 towns and 62 cities, who properly complain business that is their business is not government’s business.
    Carl will faithfully enforce the law against the practice of: ethical breaches; selective applications of the law; fabricating law; usurping legislative, executive and the people’s power; and end the predatory practices of the status quo.

    Paladino Campaign: Andrew Cuomo Took Payoffs from Slumlord–Cuomo a True Leftist

    I just received the following press release from Mike Caputo, Carl Paladino’s campaign manager:

    PALADINO: “ANDREW CUOMO TOOK A PAYOFF”
    Cuomo has a cozy, big money relationship with a “con artist”

    (BUFFALO, NY) – Carl Paladino, the Republican and Taxpayers candidate for Governor, today charged Andrew Cuomo with taking payoffs from notorious slumlord Andrew Farkas. In return, Cuomo allowed Farkas to avoid prosecution for kickbacks in HUD programs and permitted Farkas to go on milking taxpayer dollars while Cuomo was Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).

    “When HUD official Cuomo first visited the Sierra Nevada Arms housing project managed by Farkas’ company Insignia Financial Services, he called the conditions “horrendous,” Paladino said. “It was later revealed that Insignia had paid $7.6 million in kickbacks to the pockets of the owners of several abysmal housing projects, using money that HUD had earmarked for maintenance of these projects – as Cuomo put it, providing “lives of luxury for con artists stealing from our programs.”

    Story continues here……

    http://mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2010/09/paladino-campaign-andrew-cuomo-took.html

  52. Gwaithfoed says:

    Damon Vrabel, a writer at Canada Free Press and an economic philosopher, joins Chris to talk about America. Is America a republic or empire?

    http://kdka.cbslocal.com/2010/04/21/chris-moore-podcasts-is-america-a-republic-or-empire/#more-408hris-moore-podcasts-is-america-a-republic-or-empire/

  53. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Gwaithfoed says:
    October 9, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    Damon Vrabel, a writer at Canada Free Press and an economic philosopher, joins Chris to talk about America. Is America a republic or empire?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Thanks Gwaithfoed …..I love this man’s information!

  54. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Greg….are you closing this thread down or can you rename it or start a new thread as something else since RAP has disbanded…..maybe something to the effect of “OTHER PATRIOTIC MOVEMENTS VS. THE EMPIRE”

  55. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Obama Considering Rule by Executive Order in 2011

    Posted By: Susoni
    Date: Saturday, 9-Oct-2010 17:17:19

    Newsletter:

    by Ben Johnson

    This morning, political commentators are paying a great deal of attention to one of the Los Angeles Times’ stories about Barack Obama’s plans for a Republican takeover of Congress. Unfortunately, they are focusing on the wrong one. Most commentators spent the morning quoting the president’s remarks on a black radio program that a GOP-dominated Congress will result in “hand-to-hand combat.” The reality is most of the action will take place behind their backs and over their heads. All indications are, if Obama cannot get his legislative agenda enacted by Congress, he will impose it by decree.

    The evidence comes buried elsewhere in today’s L.A. Times in a piece by Peter Nicholas and Christi Parsons under the hum-drum headline, “Obama Reshapes Administration for a Fresh Strategy.” The story makes clear the “fresh strategy” borders on government by executive fiat. It begins, “As President Obama remakes his senior staff, he is also shaping a new approach for the second half of his term: to advance his agenda through executive actions he can take on his own, rather than pushing plans through an increasingly hostile Congress.” This rule by divine right of kings is confirmed by no less an Obama insider than David Axelrod, who said, “It’s fair to say that the next phase is going to be less about legislative action than it is about managing the change that we’ve brought.” The Times states candidly:

    So the best arena for Obama to execute his plans may be his own branch of government. That means more executive orders, more use of the bully pulpit, and more deployment of his ample regulatory powers and the wide-ranging rulemaking authority of his Cabinet members. (Emphases added.)

    Story continued here…..

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=184564

  56. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Ladybug says:
    October 9, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    I don’t know if anyone noticed, but Greg has added a new thread. https://gwgjlg.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/the-republic-of-the-united-states-of-america/ It is for discussions on RA.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Ladybug….is there something new with RA…..according to the ambassador from Oregon they are still trying to recruit folks into the fold and many pertinent questions went unanswered as KU outlined above….I did listen to the entire talkshoe too!

  57. TO:
    Jacqlyn Smith says:
    October 9, 2010 at 5:32 pm
    Ladybug says:
    October 9, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    I don’t know if anyone noticed, but Greg has added a new thread. https://gwgjlg.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/the-republic-of-the-united-states-of-america/ It is for discussions on RA.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Ladybug….is there something new with RA…..according to the ambassador from Oregon they are still trying to recruit folks into the fold and many pertinent questions went unanswered as KU outlined above….I did listen to the entire talkshoe too!

    ==================

    Hmmm … sounds like the same that is happening with most groups including the ones you think are “god”

  58. Habit4ming says:

    KU says:
    October 9, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Habit4ming,
    Thank you, this video is a shoehorn into a wealth of information that will strengthen my weak side. This is the type of information we need on this blog.
    —————
    You are welcome, KU…

  59. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Hmmm … sounds like the same that is happening with most groups including the ones you think are “god”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Peter….unlike you I don’t have any I think are God…..none of the groups I talk with have a prez….it is all grassroots…..people telling people…..there is NO money involved what so ever……please stop making things up…..you are beginning to sound more and more like the defacto!

  60. Habit4ming says:

    Israel Is A Nazi Enterprise / Experiment Says Jewish Woman
    (Thanks to quilts at DP)
    This is five videos that are a must listen to– what is happening HERE is happening in Israel. Dumbing down the children, CPS stealing the children, she covers so many issues and names people who should be investigated. How the Jewish religion has been changed– there is just to much to list. Please, listen and tell me what you think. It is all very sad.

    I think the powers that be turned the Jewish young into killing machines just like they have done to our young men and women in the armed forces.

    This series just raises so many questions and it is so sad how ALL people of the world are being used to hate one another on purpose just so that those in power can achieve their one world control.
    Link to DP (and videos):
    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/146347

  61. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Have you all heard of this group……something else I happened to stumble upon…..anyone know anything about this group??

    http://desteni.co.za/

    Welcome to Desteni Universe

    Desteni is the Name of the Organization of People that are placing Information available to All with regards to the current Process that is taking place on Earth in terms of realizing Who We Really Are as Life. They provide All Information with regards to how the System works, how we operate as Mind Consciousness Systems and they provide Tools that Each One can apply for themselves Individually within the consideration of realizing that we are All One and Equal – and we must take Responsibility for what we’ve created as such.

    The information is being provided to get to know How the System-works and accordingly, stand up within ourselves to create and manifest a solution that will bring an Equal-Life to all beings on Earth – There are discussions on about everything that goes around this world – from economics, religions, societies, education, personal affairs at all levels getting perspectives from other beings that are currently taking on the walking of the Process in Self Honesty, Self Forgiveness, Breathing and Writing which are the Tools provided to eventually be able to Stop and simply exist as Breath-Here, no more supporting the Systems that we’ve become.

    If you’re new to Desteni, start with the Frequently Asked Questions, which is the Desteni message in a nutshell. If you don’t feel like reading at the moment, start with the video series.

  62. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    I have posted the link to this blog here before…..the author does great work…..you must read his latest writing entitled “High Noon In America”….it is a take on what is going on in America now and using the movie ” High Noon” to make reference to the lesson’s we could learn from the movie! Great read and some outstanding comments there as well!

    http://neithercorp.us/npress/?p=832

  63. Jacqlyn Smith says:

    Rodney Dale Class – Update
    Posted on October 4, 2010 by anticorruptionsociety| 1 Comment

    by AL Whitney (C) copyright 2010 All Rights Reserved

    ON HIS EFFORTS TO HELP RESTORE CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT

    On Friday Oct 1, 2010 Rod Class had a special guest from Pennsylvania, Hagan Smith, on his weekly TalkShoe program. Hagan has spent many years researching the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and mountains of the commercial codes and statutes that currently ‘rule’ our justice system. Hagan’s conclusions concur with Rodney’s, in that the people of the United States are currently living under the authority of a military dictatorship and have been since the Civil War. Hagan’s brief summary of our de facto government. (2:39 min) However, Hagan has found that the Constitution is still in effect in a limited capacity.

    Entire story at……

    http://anticorruptionsociety.com/2010/10/04/rodney-dale-class-update/

  64. Lesley-TX says:

    And We thought the military would come to our rescue!

  65. Habit4ming says:

    ECONOMIC WOES, A CONSEQUENCE OF FREE TRADE
    PART 1 of 2

    Deanna Spingola
    October 9, 2010
    NewsWithViews.com

    The abolition of nationalism and borders under the guise of the free trade has been the ultimate Illuminati objective since the late 1700s, notably illustrated by Aaron H. Palmer who had a law office on Wall Street in the first half of the 19th century. He catered to individuals interested in transnational business and managed their commerce and paperwork with the European bankers who advocated trade. By February 1837 when the bankers and politicians shrunk the U.S. credit market, Palmer already had a working relationship with N M Rothschild & Sons, located in the City of London. Palmer supplied the Rothschilds with an account of all the financial failures, as many as 280, in the months just before the final crash.[1]

    The products of the labor of its citizens determine a nation’s prosperity. A brisk manufacturing base is essential, augmented by the service industry. Nationalists believe in reasonable tariffs that protect the nation’s industry. Free trade is detrimental to a nation’s wealth. So-called “conservatives,” those Republican “nationalists” who claim to put the U.S. first have promoted and participated, along with the Democrats, in the legislation of all of the nation’s free trade agreements. One cannot claim to cherish both sovereignty and accept free trade, through “multinational trade organizations and global financial conglomerates.” Marx, a mouthpiece minion for the elite, advocated both the income tax and free trade. He said of free trade, “it breaks up old nationalities” and eliminates the “bourgeoisie” (small businessmen).[2] Free trade functions to equalize the masses while elevating the elite and their acquiescent political devotees.
    Continued:
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deanna121.htm

  66. Habit4ming says:

    For those who did not read all of the above post – Economic Woes, a Consequence of Free Trade — OR– do not have time to do any further research —-In March 2010 Rep. Gene Taylor introduced a bill, HR 4759, TO WITHDRAW THE UNITED STATES FROM NAFTA. It was referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means…and has had no further action. After reading the above article, the importance of getting this bill passed becomes obvious. Perhaps we want to contact our Reps and push for this bill’s passage??
    Link to HR 4759:
    http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/thomas

  67. Habit4ming says:

    I have a post hung up in moderation? It was an update about the Economic Woes, a Consequence of Free Trade article, above…

  68. KU says:

    I posted this on Greg’s other blog and got a negative response. It doesn’t appear to be a false report to me, so I don’t understand why no one wishes to take it the least bit serious. If TT is begging money there and getting the cold shoulder it could affect things as I see it.

    Here’s the post:

    Here’s an interesting article about the TT funding operation.

    THE PHONEY PATRIOTS HAVE TAKEN A TOLL ON V.K. DURHAM – SHE IS TAKING A FEW DAYS OFF…. WHILE VK AND I WERE TALKING ON THE PHONE TODAY SHE WANTED TO RELATE TO EVERYONE THAT WE’RE GOING TO GET A FEW THINGS STRAIGHT THAT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW.

    THERE IS A BUNCH OF PHONEY PATRIOTS HERE IN AMERICA AND SOON AS THEIR “PEA-BRAINS” CONNECTED THE DOTS FROM VK DURHAM’S POSTINGS REGARDING THE Durham (Intl. Ltd;) Holding Trust, Tias 12087 Documents of Recorded Record 4.22.09 WITH ALL THE MEGA-GEGA ETC. BUCKS THAT WOULD BE RELEASED ARE ACTING LIKE SPOILED BRATS – “ME, ME“ – “I WANT, I WANT” – “I NEED, I NEED”. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT THESE PHONEY PATRIOTS SENT SELF-ADDRESSED ENVELOPES TO VK REQUESTING THAT SHE PUT A GOLD CERTIFICATE IN IT AND MAIL IT BACK TO THEM… OR MAIL A CHECK? THEY REALLY DON’T GET HOW THIS TRUST WORKS. NOW – BACK OFF! GIVE THE LADY A BREAK…
    SHUT UP… SIT DOWN.. AND… LISTEN.

    DO I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION?

    THIS TRUST THAT EVERYONE WANTS TO GET THEIR HANDS ON BELONGS TO PEOPLE OF THE Republic of the united States – THE TRUST REPRESENTS ALL THE MONEY THAT HAS BEEN STOLEN FROM THE PEOPLE OF THE Republic of the united States – backed by all the taxes that the people paid – BACK TO THE RAILROAD. THERE IS PAPERWORK THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 1906.

    IN 1907, THE FED RES DID A TACTIAL INTERFERENCE AND WOULD NOT PAY VK DURMAN’S GRANDFATHER, THE FED RES RIG-NIGED ON THIS DEAL TOO.
    ——————————–

    HERE ARE A COUPLE OF SITES WITH ALL THE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE TRUST http://www.rumormillnews.com, http://www.theantechamber.net

    ATTENTION PEOPLE – FBI – LANGLEY – ONI
    THE HOLDING TRUSTEE WILL NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH TIM TURNER AKA JAMES TIMOTHY TURNER OR HIS PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENT, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. OR ANY OF HIS REPRESENTATIVES.

    VK DURHAM HAS THE RIGHT NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION OR THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE OF THE Republic of the united States.
    ————————————-

    ATTENTION ROD CLASS AND “CARL”
    THEN ON ROD CLASS’S TALKSHOW, “CARL” WAS TALKING ABOUT V.K. AND SEEING IF THEY COULD GET THE TRUST. HE SAID V.K. HAD BEEN ON THEIR RADIO SHOW A FEW YEARS AGO…. WELL CARL, YOU ARE WAY TOO LATE TO THE PROM. WHY DIDN’T YOU TAKE HER SERIOUS BACK THEN??
    AND “NO” YOU CAN NOT GET THE TRUST NOW.

    REMEMBER.. that Tim Turner and his Cohorts DO NOT MEASURE UP TO THE INTREGITY REQUIREMENTS OF THE TRUST… they can wait til hell freezes over and they still won’t get it.
    ————————————————————–

    Well, I guess there are some, not in the click, that have a different view of TT. I suppose the funding myth has been exposed. Maybe there is another sad tale he can wave before us. I suggest he just come clean with what he is trying to perpetrate upon loyal patriots who follow him.

    Everyone just bad mouthed me and all I was trying to do was give some input to the funding for the RA group. Since no one will tell anybody anything about the funding that is supposed to be in place at least this is something.

  69. Ladybug says:

    KU, If it was I who you fell bad mouthed you (as you put it) I regret that. I only wanted to give my impression of the article. To me there is no evidence that any of it it s true.
    Please accept my apologies if offense was taken.

  70. KU says:

    Regarding the V. K. Durham trust article. It appears that this is a paraphrased phone conversation between the trustee and one Seawitch. If this is a biased rendition of what was said, then we will have to wait for V. K. to return and set it straight. But would this Seawitch just lie and risk loosing a valued friend and contact? why, if TT is such a God following, genuine nice guy, and I do not believe otherwise, is V.K. Durham turned off by him? Why was he not able to convince her that this is not phoney patriotism? Seems to me this needs a closer look.

  71. Floridafree says:

    I encourage anyone who missed Glenn beck on Friday to try to find a copy of that episode it was a great explanation of what is to happen when the dollar collapses. Glenn’s guest laid out a day by day of when we can expect and it does not look as though we are very far from that day we all need to prepare as it is going to be a rough ride.

  72. David Merrill says:

    The validity of negative averment liens is an interesting subject. Standard liens require a security agreement signed by both parties whereas a negative averment is an accusation that is met with acquiescence.

    Here is a classic example:

    https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImNGU0YWJmOGUtZDQ5Ni00NGU3LWE5NjMtZWQ4NWM1NmQwYWY0&hl=en

    This was based on the absence of a security agreement – the oath of office.

  73. David Merrill says:

    Here are some more details!

    https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImY2EzNzJmNjItYTEzZC00ZjZiLTg0YmItNTc5MTg2OGJiZjkw&hl=en&authkey=CO6J6dYE

    BS-Pilot,

    You said you would eat your words if I showed you an Order directed at James Timothy TURNER; there you go. The interesting part of it is that the court cannot authorize the termination of an admiralty lien unless it wants to move in admiralty, in which case the US is not a party in interest. Ergo Tim reissued the lien a couple times – until February; WHY?

    http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/585/lienterminated1.jpg
    http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6334/lienterminated2.jpg
    http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1511/lienrevived.jpg

    https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1EaV_bU7VImZTZhNzhlOTMtNzQwNC00MWYyLWJlNjktMTI4ZGUwOWE3OTcw&hl=en&authkey=CNqU4cgG

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  75. David Merrill says:

    Amazing developments on the other thread:

    For you history patriots this is a long read but very interesting. When you get on the site click on the original 13th Amendment….I am beginning to realize I don’t know anything about our country:

    These people don’t understand that we are already here! No. I am not talking about the de facto corporation – I have a lien – a real one with a signed security agreement on that and I am a statesman so I used “their” – my Great seal of authority to describe the collateral:

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B1EaV_bU7VImZjU0NDYyNDYtOWYxZi00MWRhLWEwY2YtODVhMTAwNDRkNjI4&hl=en&authkey=CPKio_YK

    Another interesting development:

    This Sunday evening (1/2/11) at 6pm PST, Chief Justice Jay Jones from the Republic for the united States of America (RuSA) will be our guest speaker. The purpose of this call is to give you the most updated information regarding local, state, and national republic government developments, plans, formation steps, and remedy.

    So what became of chief justice Nathan Joel PEACHEY? I told you what he said to me – that I best repent to the God of the Republic James Timothy TURNER.

    David

    I do not read your emails anymore. Consider using your time to do something worthwhile…By the sweat of your brow labor with thy hands so that you have to give to those in need.

    Your email address is directed to my trash folder to where it is deleted with the spam without reading.

    If you decide to get rid of the Spirit of the Lie within your Soul and repent to Tim Turner for spreading lies, propaganda and false accusations then we will read your emails again.

    Bye

    Nathan

    What I did not tell you was my reply – broadcast to the other officers as well, who may not have put me on their spamassassins:

    I doubt I will be repenting to Tim TURNER.

    The Internet has reached a critical mass where folie a deux can fester. You are affected, Nathan. Your email responses reflect a religious delirium that is becoming dangerous to others. There are many reading what you just broadcast that consider it evidence you are mentally ill. – Definitely unfit to be running an office of chief justice.

    Regards,

    David Merrill.

    Introducing a new chief justice out of the blue tells me that I was correct!

  76. gregnh says:

    Amazing developments on the other thread:

    For you history patriots this is a long read but very interesting. When you get on the site click on the original 13th Amendment….I am beginning to realize I don’t know anything about our country:

    Are you missing a link here David? I don’t see anything but the lien on the link provided, not that I need to research the Title of Nobility but others might.

  77. Habit4ming says:

    It concerns me that more and more I am seeing articles on the internet attempting to change/twist what our forefathers said about the definition of “natural born” citizen.
    Obama is NOT a “natural born” citizen, no matter where he was born, due to his father being Kenyan. Our forefathers used the Law of Nations as their guideline when forming our Constitution, although some are now trying to say they did not use it (The Law of Nations defines citizenship and national sovereignty). Proof that they used it can be found in our very own Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 10:

    Clause 10: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
    http://www.house.gov/house/Constitution/Constitution.html
    Below is a link to a well-written article concerning this topic:
    http://www.newswithviews.com/JBWilliams/williams121.htm

  78. Ben Pellerin says:

    What did you say if we think ONI and FBI was working together to used Dems for Russians invaded our government to increase an idea for Obama’s America will be social – marcressy over a years that became election from ??

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